Our political netas champions of secularism-selectively.

December 14, 2014 at 10:40 am 9 comments

Our political netas-Champions of secularism-selectively

‘Opposition targets government on conversion in Agra’… ‘Bid to impose Hindutva agenda”…This and more we heard and saw in Parliament on ‘ghar wapasi’. According to Mayawati, ‘Secularism is part of the Constitution-they (read RSS) are violating the basic tenets, BJP has a hand in it’. It was all pandemonium let loose in both the Houses with members dashing into the well. It seems as though some new danger has been sighted by them some danger to the Constitution and to the secular fabric of India.

Suddenly the MPs have become sensitive to upholding the Constitution when they do not even uphold the oath they take to function without fear or favor…. It seems that at least occasionally the MPs are conscious that we have a Constitution. When the UPA government was in power the Constitution was eroded and every tenet of it dented and over ridden. But what I cannot understand is the fact that conversions have been always forced. This was the strategy from time immemorial. Not only in India but the world over

But let us focus on India alone now. It has been a continuous conversion business. The invaders who came to India did not just stop with plundering the country and becoming rulers but they brought along their missionaries and their churches. First it was the Dutch, then the Portuguese then the French and finally the English. All these indulged in ruthless conversion through force and whatever methods possible. The poor Indians had no other option but bend to the powerful.

This is relevant to realize that all Indians-have their ancestry in Hinduism. St Francis Xavier used every force-fraud and even the Inquisition to convert Hindus. Those who did not fall in line had to flee or were tortured and killed. History records his barbarism and  the brutality with which he dealt with the Hindus. Places of worship were raided-destroyed and his public punishment was chopping off the hand for those who followed any form of Hinduism. The pillar where these unfortunate ones were dragged and hand chopped off is called the Pillar –De- Amputation.This pillar even today exists in Old Goa. This is the reason why the victims of Francis Xavier oppose the public display of his corpse. But the Church has raised him as a saint .

That may be old history but what about the much revered Mother Theresa. Did she not use blackmail to convert? Innocent children who were dying-the old and the infirm were baptized all under the garb of caring for them. They were not even aware of what was happening to them. They were in pain and in utter misery. Today the church looks on innocently. So when one says there should be no forced conversions I am flabbergasted because all conversions have some sort of a force-be it physical, psychological or social. Allurements and enticements were used especially where there is starvation and disease and pain and hopelessness. How did the North East States become Christians-due to their volition? I know a Salesian priest who used to write to my husband to send money for conversion. He even revealed that ‘the priests do not go openly but through the catechist(a low level functionary of the Church) we  approach the tribal people and give them money and promise other benefits’ .So for a loaf of bread for a few rotis and for a few rupees these unfortunate ones are ready to change their religion. Is this faith or force? Has this changed? Not one of the so called political leaders raised their voices against Mother Theresa’s blatant conversion business? Where was the Constitutional norm then? Where was secularism then? So it is only when the Hindus engage in ‘ghar wapasi’ that our political netas become aware of the Constitution and secularism and cry themselves hoarse-They then pose as great defenders and champions of secularism. This is a fraud and an injustice. This double standard is what they always resort to.

When I was working in a village project in the outskirts of Chennai-near Mahabalipuram many of the SC families told me that they were converted by the local parish priest. This they said was for their children to get admission in a minority run institution and or to get some employment. They did not mention cash .I am fully aware that the tactics used in Tamilnadu and Andhra Pradesh (may be in other States also of which I do not have first hand knowledge) the priests tell them plainly to continue with their Hindu names and enter in their application forms as SCs so that they get all the benefits due to the SCs but in reality they are all Christians. So Varadan becomes Victor for the Church record but for government records he continues to be Varadan. Take the example of Andhra \Pradesh’s former Chief Minister Rajasekaran Reddy.Many thought he was a Hindu but his first name is Samuel. These are not exception cases but the normal rule-the double deception that the Christians used. The thousands of conversions that he affected through the evangelical church of his by giving them money and luring them with other promises is well known to those in AP

But a reading of the historical data on Church history will be an eye opener for those who today think that ‘ghar wapsi’ is against the Constitution and secularism. Where did this notion of secularism go when thousands of years conversion was only through force? In recent times too it is covertly done. Whether some netas like it or not how does one account for the millions of other religious followers. Does it mean that on their own accord through faith and belief and enlightenment they all got converted?

Did the Muslims not convert through the sword? Is there no love jihadi?It is common for the Muslim/Christian to marry a Hindu and then later convert the partner to the Muslim /Christian religion. But as far as I know the Hindus did not go in for conversion. Today one talks of ‘ghar wapsi’-I fail to understand why this full throated Opposition.Where did this opposition go when conversions were taking place in India earlier and now only through some form of force. The Constitution has paved the way for this business by granting Minority Rights to the Minorities. Hence right from a tender age children are segregated in Christian institutions and in Madrassas-and groomed to think that they are different from others on the basis of religion. So we Christians think and proclaim that we have the ONE true God…Children brainwashed thus are subjected to forced-an intellectual force- where by they think in terms of differences and grow up thus in ghettos. We have Catholic doctrine for the Catholics, Bible classes for the Christians and Ethics for the Hindus. All this in Minority institutions which is run on government money. I do not know if other education Institutions also follows the same. Is this secularism? As though the Catholics and the Christiansand the Muslims do not need ethics!!!

Why is it when one says that India is a Hindu country there is so much of opposition and anger-but then one says that Pakistan is a Muslim country and so are other Middle East countriesthere is no adverse reaction. If in conversation one terms the UK/US and other European countries as Christian countries there is no objection. Why this allergy to call India a Hindu country? That does not mean others cannot live here and that does not mean that secularism is thrown out. It simply means that Hinduism was in India as far as memory goes-it is as old as this country. Hinduism sprung from the soil of this country and did not come from any other shores-unlike other religions. So what is the problem in calling a spade a spade? Similarly when one talks of Hindutva the so called secularists see red. Is it wrong or against secularism to be nationalist and a patriot? I think it a weakness and a phobia of the so called ‘secularists’. After all let us be honest when Jinnah wanted Pakistan the reason he gave was that the Muslims will not be able to coexist with the Hindus.So he wanted the country to be partition which was done. Now can the Hindus not have their own ethos and their own religion and their own perception of nationalism? What is the problem in accepting this simple truth that this in no way destroys secularism.

 For that matter it is the politicians who are hell bend in destroying secularism. Why even the demand of reservation on the basis of religion is anti-secular. For the sake of vote bank politics the political leaders divide the people. We have other religious leaders even threatening the Hindus. The political leaders simply looked the other way when conversions in large numbers were taking place. But now that the Hindus have started the ‘ghar wapasi’ they pretend to be shocked that secularism is being destroyed. I remember some years ago in Trichirapally in Tamilnadu one of the pastors baptized even those who were not present because their names were on the list but were unable to attend the service. It is well known that evangelical churches look for numbers and even poach on other churches members. Foreign funds flow in depending on numbers. One has to watch a couple of channels in the TV to realize this. The psychological blackmail that these pastors indulge in is a fraud and vulnerable people fall a prey to it. The testimonies of cures-the revelations etc are all a fraud inflicted on a vulnerable already affected and afflicted populace. The political netas are not worried about this. As long as it is not Hinduism they simply look the other way. It seems to be a sin or an aberration if one is a devote Hindu but if one is a devote Christian /Muslim then it is not frowned upon. And that the devotedness of being a Christian/Muslim mean…even when it comes to following  the anti-secular dictates of their religion like the ‘fatwa.It is no secret that Muslim scholars keep on repeating that Islam is a peace loving religion. Is that what the world experience –see in the Islamic countries. Even another Islamic sect is not tolerated. The World Human Rights forums do not raise their voices against the persecution, the killings the beheadings and above all the terrorism unleashed by religion. It is only when the Hindus raise their voices and reconvert then hackles are raised that it is unconstitutional and against secularism. This is not only a double standard but an injustice and a display of a warped perception.

Dr Mrs Hilda Raja,



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  • 1. Santhosh Kottayi  |  December 14, 2014 at 10:52 am

    Very relevant and thought provoking. I wonder what is stoping NAMO to ban all the foreign funding to all these religious organizations?!

    Sent from my iPhone


    • 2. hildaraja  |  December 15, 2014 at 2:05 pm

      I agree with you Santhosh.The GOI must ban foreign funds flow into India especially to the Churches.Even the Christian NGOs indulge in conversion- the World Vision for example-Thank you for your comment.HR

  • 3. Sita  |  December 16, 2014 at 11:30 am

    My comment yesterday has disappeared.I had posted a couple of links on the call to Muslims to LoveJihad as a response to Muslim to Hindu conversions given by the Bhukhari. Ma’am I also find the current outrage on the ‘Conversions’ by Media and Political parties against the BJP to be a strategic exercise to distract & destabilise the Govt.The reason being,the ‘Conversions’ by Missionaries has been going on for the past century,most aggressively in the past decade..The ‘re[de]-conversions have also been happening ,more quietly,without much media attention ever since Hindus became conscious of the aggressive propaganda against them especially,soon after Independence.Which was when they formulated the response to conversions by reconverting or more appropriately,deconverting those who got converted.We don’t know much about the tactics used,but not much money was involved,more of Discussions /social engineering in changing mindsets to untouchability etc,might have happened.
    What I am curious about is why is the media highlighting this issue NOW. In politics ,we know the timing of an issue matters. I feel that there is a link to the media outraging about German being replaced by Sanskrit in KV schools ;[By the way,I’m a KV Parent,so I knew of it for the past 2 years at least,as my son’s Primary teacher -(they have the same Class teacher for all their 5 Primary years)- told me she was chosen to undergo training as a German Teacher.I asked her if they are going to drop Sanskrit;she said it will be an optional subject.This happened when my son was in 9th std.He is now in 11th std].
    2)to the media Shouting about the euphemism [an innocuous word meaning ‘badmen’ has been nowadays used to mean ‘b——-‘ [ I happen to read that the word was used in Children’s stories few decades back.] used by that sadvi,while ignoring outrageously vulgar[you need a Parental guidance notice to even read the article reporting it] speeches by Mamta Bannerjee & Omar Abdulla calling people listening/attending BJP/Modi rallies as ‘B——-‘. especially when the country is fighting a small war on the border. and when a serious investigation into a scam linked with Terror organisations is going on at the opposite border!

    • 4. hildaraja  |  December 21, 2014 at 2:35 pm

      thank you Sita.It is strange that one of your comments had disappeared.The above one is very educative-relevant and an eye opener.I hope others will be able to identify the logic of your thrust.It is always a blessing to have been a teacher to you.I see how you have evolved and I have much to learn from you.Thank you and may God bless you.HR

      • 5. Sita  |  December 22, 2014 at 12:34 pm

        Ma’am,I found my comment & the links in the first posting of the article.In the comments bar on the right,it comes below SriSri4 and Santosh Kottayi’s comment.

  • 6. Sita  |  December 16, 2014 at 11:31 am

    https://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/tag/david-morris/ This letter by an evangelical also seem to give proof to what you say.

  • 7. Sita  |  December 22, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    and you are being very kind Ma’am with your praise and encouragement. Unfortunately no one is picking on that aspect of the issue.ie. why is the media focussed on the deconversion issue only now since BJP came into governance.

  • 8. Pushpinder Singh  |  February 24, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    From your article above: “But what I cannot understand is the fact that conversions have been always forced.”

    hi Hilda,
    You are misinformed when you state this.
    You are also misinforming your readers –
    This is NOT a FACT
    There has never been, nor ever will be a forced conversion into Sikhism.
    I wonder whether this your effort at Hindutva!

    Please correct yourself and be so honest as to retract.
    Thank you
    Pushpinder Singh

  • 9. Pushpinder Singh Chhatwal  |  February 24, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    “This is relevant to realize that all Indians-have their ancestry in Hinduism”

    You are also misquoting and are misguided.
    Please read Life of Guru Nanak Dev.
    Neither Hindu nor Muslim nor any notion of other such religion do we come from.
    The different Media outlets are owned by political parties, the spin masters know how to get to the masses, and the masses are like a herd of sheep who just follow blindly. Then we have our own prejudices and opinions, personal likes and dislikes. We blow our horn about our religiosity or our spirituality but we fail to see ourselves in each other. We forget, that we are all connected and our actions good or bad, affect those immediately around us, the community around us, ultimately the nation and the world.

    Karma is a very powerful force! It is important to debate, to have a point of view, to discuss so that we can solve problems not create more!

    I am an American, because I live in America, I am from India thus of Indian origin or a Bharatiye, I fail to understand how I become a Hindu? Guru Nanak was born in a Hindu family, he was a rebel and questioned the norms of the day, what started as a philosophy became a religion over a period of 200 hundred years.

    Some people say, since our Guru was born in a Hindu family, therefor, Sikhs are basically Hindus! This is like saying, Jesus was born to Jewish parents therefore all Christians are basically Jews!

    It does not matter which path we want to follow, Thank God we are free to follow any path we want to, let us not try to mislabel others! Be happy with who we are and bring out the best in each other, be a good Hindu, a good Christian, a good Muslim, a good Buddhist, a good Jain, a good Jew, a good Sikh and above all, a good human being! This human birth is for us to elevate ourselves from being human to divine, not fall from being human to lower levels!

    Hilda, I hope to hear your responses-in particular to issues I raised.
    Also kindly again, even as a teacher please learn to accept when you have incorrectly taught, unless this is intentionally and consciously your way of putting a spin and influencing the world with a wrong INDOCTRINATION just to get your jollies!!!

    Thank you
    Pushpinder Singh


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